Fire Warriner/Beck

[baller]

Now I know it's hard to run an offense when nothing is working but come on, that was pathetic, the play calling was laughable, what happened to the 10 yard sits and quick slants that we used to run? My god it was pathetic.

[keln]

What happened to just handing the ball to a back? Any back?

[baller]

Nov 22, 2015 17:00:55 GMT -5 keln said:

What happened to just handing the ball to a back? Any back?

I mean I would say hes like Bollman but at least Bollman had that "trick" up his sleeve. Neither have yet mastered the tempting pass play however.

[cwerph]

Warriner will probably be gone. He really wants to be a HC and if he can't get a low-level HC job when all the good ones are taken this year, the dream is over.

Beck should be gone.

[keln]

Urban claims he called a lot of plays, but I'm not buying it. There was nothing Urban-esque about any of that play-calling.

[mikeytbuckeyes]

Nov 22, 2015 17:35:51 GMT -5 keln said:

Urban claims he called a lot of plays, but I'm not buying it. There was nothing Urban-esque about any of that play-calling.

I agree. He said he didn't like the play calling balance they ran during the game yet we're supposed to believe HE called it that way? Not buying it. The problem w/ Beck is I don't know that Urban lets him go after only 1 year. So, since he probably won't be gone where does he move to? QB coach? What about Warriner? If he doesn't leave for a HC job what do we do w/ him? Demote him while allowing him to keep the "co" title as O-coordinator (even though he won't be an offensive coordinator)?
Urban doesn't seem to be the guy that will throw his assistants under the bus and fire them outright. He will help them find accommodations elsewhere.
With that said, I'll be very disappointed if we see the coaching staff is the same next year as it was this year. I really don't know how any OC could have done less w/ what we've got this year. Here's a breakdown of their offensive production:
VT: 6TDs 0FGs (42-24)
Hawaii: 4TDs 1FG (+1 defensive TD) (38-0)
NIU: 1TD 2FGs (+1 defensive TD) (20-13)
WMU: 4TD 1FG (+1 defensive TD) (38-12)
IU: 4TD 2FG (3 of those were runs of >50yds by EE) (34-27)
MU: 7TD (49-28)
PSU: 5TDs 1FG (38-10)
RU: 7TDs (49-7)
Minn: 3TDs (+1 defensive TD) (28-14)
Ill: 4TDs (28-3)
MSU: 2TDs (both TDs required gaining a TOTAL of 38yds) (14-17)

Here's a comparison of their season scored upon averages:
VT: 24.5ppg (+17.5)
Hawaii: 36.4 (+1.6 or -5.4 by offense alone)
NIU: 24.7 (-4.7 or -11.7 by offense alone)
WMU: 27.9 (+10.1 or +3.1 by offense alone)
IU: 37.2 (-3.2)
MU: 33.8 (+15.2)
PSU: 18.6 (+19.4)
RU: 33.9 (+15.1)
Minn: 25.6 (+2.4 or -4.6 by offense alone)
Ill: 23.2 (+4.8)
MSU: 21.5 (-7.5)

So, our offense has produced the following differential as it pertains to the final score vs average ppg allowed by each team (everything except defensive TDs are credited to the O): +17.5, -5.4, -11.7, +3.1, -3.2, +15.2, +19.4, +15.1, -4.6, +4.8, -7.5.
So, we've been above our opponent's ppg average significantly (2 TDs or more) 4 times this season (VT, Maryland, PSU, RU) while we were w/in 1 score above their average ppg surrendered 2 times and scored below their average ppg 5 times. Let's remember we aren't talking about a gauntlet of a schedule here. W/ our offense primed to be the year Meyer looked ahead to winning the NC scoring at (w/in 1 score) or below a team's average 7 times out of 11 games is unacceptable and falls clearly on the coaching.
But I'm just a fan, so what do I know?

[socaljd3]

Can we add Marvin Lewis to this list? I know he's probably the worst clock manager in all of the NFL for the past 12 years or however long its been, but last night i had to witness more ineptness...down 3, 3rd and two at the 26 with 1:06 on the clock i believe. So the normal thinking is to run the ball, if you don't get the first you're kicking a 43 yarder from the spot or a first down with roughly 20 seconds on the clock. What do they do, throw a back shoulder, low %, pass that's incomplete, kick the fg with a minute on the clock...mind you, AZ has no timeouts.

Then, they give up 60 yards on 3 plays, AZ kicks a chip shot for the win...lol, you can't make this sh!t up. And, if you look at the replay, if they had handed it to GIO, which initially i thought they did, he not only gets the first but probably 15+ yards...

Sorry, had to vent, but watching back to back days of ineptness infuriates me to no end...and that isn't my job and i can sit here and call out better plays to run, fuck me!

[buckeyebikerbabe]

Both of them will be gone after Jan 1. Maybe by next Monday if the don't pull out a win over TTUN. Hell...if the worst happens, they will be walking back to Cbus because they won't be employed by tOSU when that final second ticks off the clock in AA.