2017 5-Star Safety Isaiah Pryor is a BUCKEYE

[victor2111]

Jul 30, 2015 11:56:19 GMT -5 @buckina said:

Jul 30, 2015 11:50:08 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

LOL @ blaming TP for his downfall. Tressel downfall was all on him. He was the man in charged and let things slip by. He has no one to blame but himself.

I HATE HIM. No apologies. I love MoC b/c he has redeemed himself. Pryor, I am staying and then leaving??? Jackazz! He has done nothing for tOSU or others since he left.

He left because he wasn;t going to be able to play. Just like MoC. And then kept quiet to not throw Ohio State under the bus.

He is NOT ALLOWED to do anything for tOSU. They will not allow him. He WANTS to.

Danny Clark is two years away from becoming a member of the Ohio State football program, but the four-star quarterback already knows what number he wants to wear with the Buckeyes.

No. 2.

Why? Because of the last quarterback to sport the number in Columbus: Terrelle Pryor.

Pryor, now a wide receiver with the Cleveland Browns, had a troubled end to his career at OSU, but he clearly had a positive effect on Clark, a 2017 recruit out of Massillon, Ohio.

This guy is the reason I started playing qb.Changing back to #2 this year.I'll wear #2 at OSU. @terrellepryor #legend

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Jul 30, 2015 12:49:48 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

Jul 30, 2015 11:56:19 GMT -5 @buckina said:

I HATE HIM. No apologies. I love MoC b/c he has redeemed himself. Pryor, I am staying and then leaving??? Jackazz! He has done nothing for tOSU or others since he left.

He left because he wasn;t going to be able to play. Just like MoC. And then kept quiet to not throw Ohio State under the bus.

He is NOT ALLOWED to do anything for tOSU. They will not allow him. He WANTS to.

Danny Clark is two years away from becoming a member of the Ohio State football program, but the four-star quarterback already knows what number he wants to wear with the Buckeyes.

No. 2.

Why? Because of the last quarterback to sport the number in Columbus: Terrelle Pryor.

Pryor, now a wide receiver with the Cleveland Browns, had a troubled end to his career at OSU, but he clearly had a positive effect on Clark, a 2017 recruit out of Massillon, Ohio.

This guy is the reason I started playing qb.Changing back to #2 this year.I'll wear #2 at OSU. @terrellepryor #legend

He can't talk? Work for a charity? What?

Maybe the kid started before the sh!t hit the fan?

I get your point but I am stubborn, I will not change my mind. lol

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Jul 30, 2015 11:50:08 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

Jul 30, 2015 8:37:46 GMT -5 @buckina said:

Vic, when I hold a grudge, I rarely let it go. JT gave me one of the best nights ever and Pryor was part of his downfall. I do not forget. And I have a gun so shut up. lol

LOL @ blaming TP for his downfall. Tressel downfall was all on him. He was the man in charged and let things slip by. He has no one to blame but himself.

He said "part" which is 100% accurate. You are absolutely right that Tress ultimately blames himself, but to act as if Pryor didn't have a part in it is weak. The guy was great, but he let that that greatness go to his head. He thought he was bigger and better than the program. His tats are only part of the issue.

I have yet to see/hear of this remorse you have talked about. Maybe that will change when he allowed back on campus but I certainly haven't seen evidence of a guy that was sorry. More like sorry he wa caught.

[victor2111]

What do you want him to say? Besides him saying he wants to talk to kids and come back?

TP has done plenty of charity work and hospitals visits with the NFL team he worked for. Even with the teams he was with just for a couple months, still visited local hospitals and stuff like that in short period of time.


That is the problem, I think people hate TP because they hate what happen to Ohio State and he is the one that people direct their hate to for what happen. But if you sit back and really think about everything that happen, I think most would feel a little sorry for him. He gets all the hate and lost the most, when others have done the same thing since and barely faced anything. What he did wasn't that bad, it was very small and something that had been happening at Ohio State for 10+ years.

I think most people have forgave him, I think the rest will as time goes by(just like MoC).

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Feel sorry for him? Lol. I'll forgive him just like I did MoC but he hasn't earned it yet IMO. You bust on people for being a hater, but you are the biggest TP apologist I've ever seen.

[victor2111]

Jul 30, 2015 13:06:15 GMT -5 @jtrbucks said:

Jul 30, 2015 11:50:08 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

LOL @ blaming TP for his downfall. Tressel downfall was all on him. He was the man in charged and let things slip by. He has no one to blame but himself.

He said "part" which is 100% accurate. You are absolutely right that Tress ultimately blames himself, but to act as if Pryor didn't have a part in it is weak. The guy was great, but he let that that greatness go to his head. He thought he was bigger and better than the program. His tats are only part of the issue.

I have yet to see/hear of this remorse you have talked about. Maybe that will change when he allowed back on campus but I certainly haven't seen evidence of a guy that was sorry. More like sorry he wa caught.

She*

He was a very small part that is overblown. He wasn't the only one. THis was happening a long time before he got here. Him(and the other 4) were the ones that name finally got caught. This wouldn't have been a big issue if Tressel would have done his job when he got the information. He does his job, players get a small suspension(probably 2-3 games) and life goes on.


Tressel turned this into a bigger issue for not taking control of the program. Sure TP and other players actions put him in that position but he WAS PAID a lot of money to handle the football program. He didn't do that.

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Jul 30, 2015 13:06:39 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

What do you want him to say? Besides him saying he wants to talk to kids and come back?

TP has done plenty of charity work and hospitals visits with the NFL team he worked for. Even with the teams he was with just for a couple months, still visited local hospitals and stuff like that in short period of time.


That is the problem, I think people hate TP because they hate what happen to Ohio State and he is the one that people direct their hate to for what happen. But if you sit back and really think about everything that happen, I think most would feel a little sorry for him. He gets all the hate and lost the most, when others have done the same thing since and barely faced anything. What he did wasn't that bad, it was very small and something that had been happening at Ohio State for 10+ years.

I think most people have forgave him, I think the rest will as time goes by(just like MoC).

The problem is he didn't win a championship - had he won a championship, he'd have been fine - gesh

[victor2111]

Jul 30, 2015 13:09:36 GMT -5 @jtrbucks said:

Feel sorry for him? Lol. I'll forgive him just like I did MoC but he hasn't earned it yet IMO. You bust on people for being a hater, but you are the biggest TP apologist I've ever seen.

My bad. You're right. Getting free tats is worth losing your college career, being banned from your university, and GETTING SUSPENDED 5 games in the NFL without practice.


You're right. That is exactly the punishment he should have got. You really believe that?

I said he was an idiot and made a mistake. Just like Bosa, Marshall, Wilson did recently. Not going to kill them for it though...

[victor2111]

Jul 30, 2015 13:11:48 GMT -5 @grumor said:

Jul 30, 2015 13:06:39 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

What do you want him to say? Besides him saying he wants to talk to kids and come back?

TP has done plenty of charity work and hospitals visits with the NFL team he worked for. Even with the teams he was with just for a couple months, still visited local hospitals and stuff like that in short period of time.


That is the problem, I think people hate TP because they hate what happen to Ohio State and he is the one that people direct their hate to for what happen. But if you sit back and really think about everything that happen, I think most would feel a little sorry for him. He gets all the hate and lost the most, when others have done the same thing since and barely faced anything. What he did wasn't that bad, it was very small and something that had been happening at Ohio State for 10+ years.

I think most people have forgave him, I think the rest will as time goes by(just like MoC).

The problem is he didn't win a championship - had he won a championship, he'd have been fine - gesh

LOL, BL

[buckeyebikerbabe]

No one hated MoC more than me when he tried to take tOSU down, not just the fb program or the Athletic Dept, but the whole university. He turned his back on the very people who tried to help him find his way when even his own family, in particular his mother, was using him. But he took his punishment like a man and became a man in the process by making amends and by being sorry for what he did. Buckeye Nation (including me) forgave him and welcomed him back. He paid his dues.

I never hated Pryor because even though he was a jerk at times, I can't blame Tatgate on him entirely. He may have been involved, even been the ringleader, but it was Tressel lying and trying to cover it up that brought the NCAA down on us. If Tressel had come clean immediately, there might have been a 4 or 5 game suspension for the players and one bad season for us, but it would have been over in one year. As it was, all of Buckeye Nation suffered for a few years and the 12-0 undefeated team in Urban's first year never had the chance to play in a bowl game or have a chance to win the NC. Those seniors suffered the most for Pryor and the other players' actions and for Tressel's dishonesty. But in time, TR will be welcomed back too - IF he takes the same path that MoC did and shows that he is sincerely sorry and tries to make amends for the damage he did by working with young players.

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Jul 30, 2015 13:13:14 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

Jul 30, 2015 13:09:36 GMT -5 @jtrbucks said:

Feel sorry for him? Lol. I'll forgive him just like I did MoC but he hasn't earned it yet IMO. You bust on people for being a hater, but you are the biggest TP apologist I've ever seen.

My bad. You're right. Getting free tats is worth losing your college career, being banned from your university, and GETTING SUSPENDED 5 games in the NFL without practice.


You're right. That is exactly the punishment he should have got. You really believe that?

I said he was an idiot and made a mistake. Just like Bosa, Marshall, Wilson did recently. Not going to kill them for it though...

The NFL part was stupid. Aside from that he got what he deserved. Doesn't matter if anyone likes the rule or not he knew about and broke it.

My issue with TP goes deeper than just tats. I still can't get over his arrogance and ingnorance of showing up in new and different cars while we were getting investigated for that. The guy cared about himself first. Period.

I don't disagree with you about Tress other than I still believe he fell on the sword to protect Gene Smith.

[buckeyebikerbabe]

He probably did protect Gene Smith by taking the fall, and he probably also did it because he loved tOSU and didn't want to see the university suffer either. But Tressel had lost the fire in his belly to win and his heart just wasn't in it anymore. Every now and then in his last couple of season, we'd see that fire for a brief minute, but he just couldn't sustain it. It was time for him to go and do something else more satisfying to him for the rest of his working life. He did that and seems happy now being a president.

[WANG]

Jones is the starter, argument over.