10-second rule

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The proposed 10-second rule would penalize teams for snapping the ball in the first 10 seconds of the 40-second clock. - scheduled to be voted on Thursday by the NCAA playing rules oversight panel.

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What do you think? I don't like it. Stop messing with the game.

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I don't think there is anyway this goes through.

[WANG]

Yeah, this is officially NOT going in front of the rules committee anymore, so no need to worry about it

[TH1Bucks]

I like it but I thought this OP 10 second rule topic was a new bogey we men had to ........... Never mind. Forgot this is a family forums


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[ohstatefan]

So if the previous play ended with an inbounds tackle, is this 10 seconds also coming off the game clock? That could have some big ramifications for late game drives.

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Mar 6, 2014 15:16:09 GMT -5 ohstatefan said:

So if the previous play ended with an inbounds tackle, is this 10 seconds also coming off the game clock? That could have some big ramifications for late game drives.

That's why it's crazy that they were going to vote on this already.  THere has been no exploration into data about injuries caused by fast play nor has there been talk about how it will affect things like what you brought up in your post.

[gobucksgo]

Mar 6, 2014 15:37:36 GMT -5 @teddy said:

Mar 6, 2014 15:16:09 GMT -5 ohstatefan said:

So if the previous play ended with an inbounds tackle, is this 10 seconds also coming off the game clock? That could have some big ramifications for late game drives.

That's why it's crazy that they were going to vote on this already.  THere has been no exploration into data about injuries caused by fast play nor has there been talk about how it will affect things like what you brought up in your post.

Mostly this rule change was pushed by coaches that are running a Pro-Style offense and defense. The hurry-up proves to be an advantage over these.

So, my thought is this, if you are playing say Oregon, you know for however long you have had them on your schedule that your D is gonna run 80+ plays that game. Conditioning and game planning are essential for you to win that battle.

You need to emphasize that the players are gonna be tired and winded. As an offense, you know you have to have a long and sustained drive to give you D a rest. You CANNOT go 3 and out every drive.

You need to coach to that. Not complain that if the other team is not huddling that you need time for your kids to rest between plays. I get 375 LB linemen get tired and winded. Recruit better back ups. tOSU has always recruited that we can rotate in and out the 2nd and 3rd guys in almost every defensive position. Not always, but more often than not.

Being able to get your D to properly read the Option Read offense play and get from sideline to sideline and cover the edge will do more to kill no huddle schemes than anything else. But, conditioning and discipline need to be part of that equation too.

SO, stop whining Nick Saben and play football!

*steps off soapbox*

[ohstatefan]

Mar 6, 2014 15:59:07 GMT -5 gobucksgo said:

Mar 6, 2014 15:37:36 GMT -5 @teddy said:

That's why it's crazy that they were going to vote on this already.  THere has been no exploration into data about injuries caused by fast play nor has there been talk about how it will affect things like what you brought up in your post.

Mostly this rule change was pushed by coaches that are running a Pro-Style offense and defense. The hurry-up proves to be an advantage over these.

So, my thought is this, if you are playing say Oregon, you know for however long you have had them on your schedule that your D is gonna run 80+ plays that game. Conditioning and game planning are essential for you to win that battle.

You need to emphasize that the players are gonna be tired and winded. As an offense, you know you have to have a long and sustained drive to give you D a rest. You CANNOT go 3 and out every drive.

You need to coach to that. Not complain that if the other team is not huddling that you need time for your kids to rest between plays. I get 375 LB linemen get tired and winded. Recruit better back ups. tOSU has always recruited that we can rotate in and out the 2nd and 3rd guys in almost every defensive position. Not always, but more often than not.

Being able to get your D to properly read the Option Read offense play and get from sideline to sideline and cover the edge will do more to kill no huddle schemes than anything else. But, conditioning and discipline need to be part of that equation too.

SO, stop whining Nick Saben and play football!

*steps off soapbox*

I think generally the team that doesn't have as deep a bench is going to want to speed up the game. Since they're going to have to always play their first stringers, they want to make sure the opposition also has to keep the same guys in the game so fatigue affects them equally as the game goes on. So they get their plays off so quickly the other team doesn't have time to sub, and can't bring in specialists for certain situations.

[ohstatefan]

Mar 6, 2014 15:37:36 GMT -5 @teddy said:

Mar 6, 2014 15:16:09 GMT -5 ohstatefan said:

So if the previous play ended with an inbounds tackle, is this 10 seconds also coming off the game clock? That could have some big ramifications for late game drives.

That's why it's crazy that they were going to vote on this already.  THere has been no exploration into data about injuries caused by fast play nor has there been talk about how it will affect things like what you brought up in your post.

I could see it now. Ohio State is down by 4 points to Michigan but has the ball with 20 seconds left, and is out of timeouts. Braxton Miller hands off to RB who gets tackled at the 20 yardline in bounds. Players get set, ref sets the ball with 8 seconds left on the play clock. And the game is over because we're not allowed to snap the ball.

...but at least everyone's safe. lol

[angrybaldman]

Reminds me of how the NFL penalized Sam Wyche when he started no huddle in the NFL.

[victor2111]

Mar 6, 2014 16:37:12 GMT -5 ohstatefan said:

Mar 6, 2014 15:37:36 GMT -5 @teddy said:

That's why it's crazy that they were going to vote on this already.  THere has been no exploration into data about injuries caused by fast play nor has there been talk about how it will affect things like what you brought up in your post.

I could see it now. Ohio State is down by 4 points to Michigan but has the ball with 20 seconds left, and is out of timeouts. Braxton Miller hands off to RB who gets tackled at the 20 yardline in bounds. Players get set, ref sets the ball with 8 seconds left on the play clock. And the game is over because we're not allowed to snap the ball.

...but at least everyone's safe. lol

Last two min of 2nd/4th quarter, the rule wouldn't be in place according to the rule.

[ohstatefan]

Mar 6, 2014 17:36:53 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

Mar 6, 2014 16:37:12 GMT -5 ohstatefan said:

I could see it now. Ohio State is down by 4 points to Michigan but has the ball with 20 seconds left, and is out of timeouts. Braxton Miller hands off to RB who gets tackled at the 20 yardline in bounds. Players get set, ref sets the ball with 8 seconds left on the play clock. And the game is over because we're not allowed to snap the ball.

...but at least everyone's safe. lol

Last two min of 2nd/4th quarter, the rule wouldn't be in place according to the rule.

The fact that they would have to do that to keep games from having absurd endings is an indication of how stupid the rule change is, imo.

[ohstatefan]

It just seems a little absurd too make the game take even longer for something that isn't fun to watch (waiting for the 10 seconds to expire). It already takes 3 hours to play a 60 minute game. I know some plays it won't matter. Lots of times the team was going to wait to snap the ball anyway. Bit it just seems sad to make this big momentum killer and eliminate one of the most exciting things about the game (fast paced drives).

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I heard someone suggest something pretty interesting....give each team 2 substitution only timeouts.... kinda like the 30 sec to in basketball.
No going to sideline or water our anything... just to get subs in only.
Twice during a game you can request this and sub anyone, any number of subs but the game clock starts on ready for play even if the previous play was out of bounds or an incompletion.


Have to think about it some more but I think I like that.

[victor2111]

Mar 6, 2014 21:38:05 GMT -5 @theref said:

I heard someone suggest something pretty interesting....give each team 2 substitution only timeouts.... kinda like the 30 sec to in basketball.
No going to sideline or water our anything... just to get subs in only.
Twice during a game you can request this and sub anyone, any number of subs but the game clock starts on ready for play even if the previous play was out of bounds or an incompletion.


Have to think about it some more but I think I like that.

Don't need it. Just have a player fall down and the game has to stop.


There should be no rule. I like when one coach said the defense has an advantage over the offense before pre snap with how they can move all 11 guys. This gives the offense an advantage back over them.

Keep it that way.