Referee w/kahunas

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I am saying on slow motion replay it appears to be block by black and white rule book. But this is a play that requires advantage/disadvantage judgement. And in my view as well as the vast majority of basketball people voicing their opinion, charge was the right call.

[victor2111]

Coach said he was upset a play almost exactly like that a few min earlier went duke way on the other side of the court. That is why he was so upset, duke got both calls on same play.

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Feb 26, 2014 12:09:23 GMT -5 victor2111 said:

Coach said he was upset a play almost exactly like that a few min earlier went duke way on the other side of the court. That is why he was so upset, duke got both calls on same play.

Yeah, I heard that. I would love to see that in comparison.
That does bring up a good point. We are also taught to be consistent and do what we call piggybacking calls. If it is a charge on one end then try your best to call the similar play on the other end charge as well. That is not saying an obvious block be changed to charge because a charge was called on the other end but similar looking plays be called the same way.
That is why I would like to see the earlier play Boeheim is talking about. See how similar they really are.

[cwerph]

Ref, could explain more fully the concept of Advantage/Disadvantage?

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Mar 1, 2014 21:15:48 GMT -5 cwerph said:

Ref, could explain more fully the concept of Advantage/Disadvantage?

Tons of scenarios. Too many to describe all of them.
The easiest scenario to describe it is holding in football. Imagine a dive play off tackle. The tackle, that the ball carrier is running behind, is blowing his guy off the line. In the process his hands have the defenders jersey. The defender is beat regardless of the hold and no shot at the tackle. The defender was not at a disadvantage because of the hold so No flag

One of the easiest basketball scenarios I can give is ....two guys going for rebound, the defense in front, the offensive guy behind pushes or just jumps forward enough to cause contact and defender goes forward a bit because of the contact. Although a foul by the book, no advantage is gained by the guy behind because the guy he bumped our pushed is still able to get the rebound and kick out to his guard for a fast break.so no whistle.

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For a shorter version of the concept.... A foul or infraction that does not effect the play so don't call...............or call the foul or infraction against the player that created an advantage or put his opposition at a disadvantage.

[cwerph]

Mar 2, 2014 0:09:43 GMT -5 @theref said:

For a shorter version of the concept.... A foul or infraction that does not effect the play so don't call...............or call the foul or infraction against the player that created an advantage or put his opposition at a disadvantage.

Thanks. That makes sense.