OL Justin Boren leaves Michigan

[victor2111]

- RR doing a nice job at UM. everyone is running away from him!

ANN ARBOR -- Michigan offensive lineman Justin Boren, who was projected to be a starter this fall, has left the team.

Boren, who started 14 games for the Wolverines and played in 18, informed coach Rich Rodriguez on Monday that he would not return.

"Justin Boren decided not to play," Rodriguez said Tuesday evening during a news conference. "We're forging ahead with the guys who play for Michigan."

Rodriguez would not say what Boren's reasons were for leaving. He would not say whether Boren is transferring or will remain at Michigan.

"I only talk about the guys who play for Michigan," Rodriguez said.

[buckeyebikerbabe]

victor2111 said:

- RR doing a nice job at UM. everyone is running away from him!

ANN ARBOR -- Michigan offensive lineman Justin Boren, who was projected to be a starter this fall, has left the team.

Boren, who started 14 games for the Wolverines and played in 18, informed coach Rich Rodriguez on Monday that he would not return.

"Justin Boren decided not to play," Rodriguez said Tuesday evening during a news conference. "We're forging ahead with the guys who play for Michigan."

Rodriguez would not say what Boren's reasons were for leaving. He would not say whether Boren is transferring or will remain at Michigan.

"I only talk about the guys who play for Michigan," Rodriguez said.

Real classy guy. It's no wonder they're leaving if this is an example of how he treats his players.

[byco42]

What do you know about how RR treated Boren, or any other Michigan player?

[victor2111]

RR doesn't care about anybody but himself. He did a nice job by leaving his players from WVU and giving up on them..

I love Coach Tress!

Here is what Coach Tress had to say about RS when he transfer from Ohio State this year

"He has been a great team member," Tressel said.

Schoenhoft said he sought Tressel's counsel often, and he did so again after the move to tight end in December.

"One thing coach Tressel always told me is, 'Robbie, there is only one person who knows exactly what you're thinking, and that is you,' " Schoenhoft said. "He told me 'Don't listen to what other people are saying. You know that what you feel, and what is best for you is what I want.'


What does coach RR say when one of his players go to another team...I am only going to talk about the players at Michigan.

Also on RR and what I would hate about him:

He tells Pryor before his team he is taking the Michigan job. He doesn't care about him team...more about himself

HEre is what one recruit has to say on RR

“I was still considering West Virginia, so this is a big shocker,” Hale said. “Personally, I didn’t expect him to be leaving. He was telling everyone that he was going to be there for a while and that he wasn’t going anywhere. This makes him look like he lied.”

So true

So how do I see RR: He doesn't care about his players and he is a liar.

[byco42]

Why should RR give one second of consideration, as one who is establishing his presence for a different program, to players who make the determination to leave it?

And what can he say about Boren, anyway? He knows next to nothing about him, he's not played one down for him and he's now history? I'm will RR ... the players who leave have left, and let's focus on ho is staying, because "Those who stay will be champions."

[victor2111]

byco42 said:

Why should RR give one second of consideration, as one who is establishing his presence for a different program, to players who make the determination to leave it?

And what can he say about Boren, anyway? He knows next to nothing about him, he's not played one down for him and he's now history? I'm will RR ... the players who leave have left, and let's focus on ho is staying, because "Those who stay will be champions."

I guess it is hard to say I wish Boren good luck where ever he goes and its time to focus on the players who are here at UM. That is what I would of said if I was RR.

I wouldn't trust RR...he can do the same thing he did with UM with what he did with WVU.

[byco42]

victor2111 said:

RR doesn't care about anybody but himself. He did a nice job by leaving his players from WVU and giving up on them..

I love Coach Tress!

Here is what Coach Tress had to say about RS when he transfer from Ohio State this year

"He has been a great team member," Tressel said.

Schoenhoft said he sought Tressel's counsel often, and he did so again after the move to tight end in December.

"One thing coach Tressel always told me is, 'Robbie, there is only one person who knows exactly what you're thinking, and that is you,' " Schoenhoft said. "He told me 'Don't listen to what other people are saying. You know that what you feel, and what is best for you is what I want.'


What does coach RR say when one of his players go to another team...I am only going to talk about the players at Michigan.

Also on RR and what I would hate about him:

He tells Pryor before his team he is taking the Michigan job. He doesn't care about him team...more about himself

HEre is what one recruit has to say on RR

“I was still considering West Virginia, so this is a big shocker,” Hale said. “Personally, I didn’t expect him to be leaving. He was telling everyone that he was going to be there for a while and that he wasn’t going anywhere. This makes him look like he lied.”

So true

So how do I see RR: He doesn't care about his players and he is a liar.

What'd you do, a little more research to "prove" your point? You should feel very comfortable that such a person is coaching your arch-rival.

[victor2111]

byco42 said:

victor2111 said:

RR doesn't care about anybody but himself. He did a nice job by leaving his players from WVU and giving up on them..

I love Coach Tress!

Here is what Coach Tress had to say about RS when he transfer from Ohio State this year

"He has been a great team member," Tressel said.

Schoenhoft said he sought Tressel's counsel often, and he did so again after the move to tight end in December.

"One thing coach Tressel always told me is, 'Robbie, there is only one person who knows exactly what you're thinking, and that is you,' " Schoenhoft said. "He told me 'Don't listen to what other people are saying. You know that what you feel, and what is best for you is what I want.'


What does coach RR say when one of his players go to another team...I am only going to talk about the players at Michigan.

Also on RR and what I would hate about him:

He tells Pryor before his team he is taking the Michigan job. He doesn't care about him team...more about himself

HEre is what one recruit has to say on RR

“I was still considering West Virginia, so this is a big shocker,” Hale said. “Personally, I didn’t expect him to be leaving. He was telling everyone that he was going to be there for a while and that he wasn’t going anywhere. This makes him look like he lied.”

So true

So how do I see RR: He doesn't care about his players and he is a liar.

What'd you do, a little more research to "prove" your point? You should feel very comfortable that such a person is coaching your arch-rival.

I feel very comfortable but that is because of JT is Bucks coach.

Don't get me wrong...RR is a very good coach who knows how to coach his team...all I am saying he is not a person I would "trust".

and no I didn't have to research that. I already knew what Hale said about Coach RR because Hale was almost a Buckeye and I already knew he told Pryor before his team because that is how Scout found out he was going to UM and that is when I first read he was going to UM...just had to find the quotes.

I have a lot of UM fans and they are 50/50 on RR. Some said they love him and others are ? ? ? ? ? some things about him.

Like everything in life....only time will tell.

[victor2111]

Boren has spoken:

Offensive lineman Justin Boren received his release papers from the Michigan football team and issued a statement regarding his departure from the Wolverines.

Boren, the Wolverines' most experienced returning lineman, left the team on Monday, a day before the team's fifth spring practice under new coach Rich Rodriguez.

"I regret leaving behind my friends and teammates, but I need to stand up for what I know is right," Boren said in a statement released Wednesday afternoon. "I wore the winged helmet with pride, whether we won or lost, whether things were going well or times were tough.

"Michigan football was a family, built on mutual respect and support for each other from (former) Coach (Lloyd) Carr on down. We knew it took the entire family, a team effort, and we all worked together. I have great trouble accepting that those family values have eroded in just a few months. That same helmet, that I was raised on and proudly claimed for the last two years, now brings a completely different emotion to me, one that interferes with practicing and playing my best and mentally preparing for what is required.

"That I am unable to perform under these circumstances at the level I expect of myself, and my teammates and Michigan fans deserve, is why I have made the decision to leave. To those of you outside the program, the loyal Michigan fans and alumni, I know you will have trouble understanding, but I do want to thank you for your years of support. I wish my teammates the best and will always be proud to have been a part of Michigan football over the past two years."

Mike Boren, Justin's father and a former Michigan player, would not discuss further his son's plans. Justin Boren is expected to finish the semester at Michigan before transferring.

Boren, a projected starter at left guard this fall as a junior, was the most experienced of Michigan's returning linemen. He started 14 games and played in 18 during his career. He informed Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez on Monday that he would not be returning.

"We're forging ahead with the guys who play for Michigan," Rodriguez said Tuesday night when asked about Boren, adding he only talks about those who play for Michigan.

Boren joins Alex Mitchell and Jeremy Ciulla as offensive linemen who have chosen not to return this year. That means on a team that will be down in terms of scholarship numbers, this is a position group lean in numbers and certainly in experience.

[buckeyebikerbabe]

I hope we get him. What a hoot it will be to have him playing against TTUN in a couple of years! Would be a huge motivation for him to take it to TTUN and RR and that kind of emotion tends to stir up the whole team. I like it!

[buckeyebikerbabe]

victor2111 said:

byco42 said:

What'd you do, a little more research to "prove" your point? You should feel very comfortable that such a person is coaching your arch-rival.

I feel very comfortable but that is because of JT is Bucks coach.

Don't get me wrong...RR is a very good coach who knows how to coach his team...all I am saying he is not a person I would "trust".

and no I didn't have to research that. I already knew what Hale said about Coach RR because Hale was almost a Buckeye and I already knew he told Pryor before his team because that is how Scout found out he was going to UM and that is when I first read he was going to UM...just had to find the quotes.

I have a lot of UM fans and they are 50/50 on RR. Some said they love him and others are ? ? ? ? ? some things about him.

Like everything in life....only time will tell.

I agree with ya, Vic. I don't trust him as far as I could throw him and given the rough start at TTUN he's already had, I think his "honeymoon period" with the Wolverine Nation will be pretty short. He'll be expected to produce quickly and if he doesn't his tenure will be short.

[byco42]

This indictment is the worst kind...veiled accusations without specific examples. A kid being a kid...leaving his former teammates to answer to what he means.

A more mature person would have reserved comment. Even if it is true, I don't care in the least that he left, or the reasons why.

[buckeyeabroad]

byco42 said:

This indictment is the worst kind...veiled accusations without specific examples. A kid being a kid...leaving his former teammates to answer to what he means.

A more mature person would have reserved comment. Even if it is true, I don't care in the least that he left, or the reasons why.

Byco, don't be so judgmental about Boren. That's precisely the treatment you were advocating for RR previously.

It's as easy to interpret Boren's parting remarks as an explanation he felt he owed teammates and scUM fans, as it is to see in his remarks and departure the shift of his responsibilities to the shoulders of his former teammates.

It's a matter of your perspective, Byco. Isn't it?

[byco42]

buckeyeabroad said:

byco42 said:

This indictment is the worst kind...veiled accusations without specific examples. A kid being a kid...leaving his former teammates to answer to what he means.

A more mature person would have reserved comment. Even if it is true, I don't care in the least that he left, or the reasons why.

Byco, don't be so judgmental about Boren. That's precisely the treatment you were advocating for RR previously.

It's as easy to interpret Boren's parting remarks as an explanation he felt he owed teammates and scUM fans, as it is to see in his remarks and departure the shift of his responsibilities to the shoulders of his former teammates.

It's a matter of your perspective, Byco. Isn't it?

IMO, he only owns his teammates an explanation. By making vague, public statements, he automatically shifts the burden of further explanation to his teammates, regardless of his intentions.

[angrybaldman]

Actually if he said nothing, his teammates would still bear the brunt of the questions surrounding his departure.