Playoff odds

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Dec 3, 2015 9:53:36 GMT -5 @cincycanesfan said:

Dec 3, 2015 7:39:48 GMT -5 @grumor said:

Honestly, I don't know. I love the Buckeyes, but I'm still salty I suppose that they f'ed around and didn't take care of business. It is also a very rough precedent to set if non-conference champions get in over conference champions.

OSU has a pretty weak case this year no matter whom loses. They had a weak OOC, did not play two of the four best teams in the conference, lost late, and did not even play for the CCG. They are basically FSU from last year, but with a loss and no conference title.

Ok then come up with who you would put in if Alabama and Stanford lose?

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It does come down to an eye test at that stage. I don't think anyone could argue that USC should jump from 20 to 4 by beating Stanford. I could see a case being made if UNC was to play Clemson tight and lost by less than a TD and of course if the Iowa/MSU game is tight and MSU comes out on top, why not keep Iowa at 4 and MSU moves up to 2 or 3 depending on who losses in front of them?

Talent wise - OSU is one of the best, if not the best of the 1 loss teams - team wise though, they just aren't there this year.

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Dec 3, 2015 10:48:19 GMT -5 @grumor said:

It does come down to an eye test at that stage. I don't think anyone could argue that USC should jump from 20 to 4 by beating Stanford. I could see a case being made if UNC was to play Clemson tight and lost by less than a TD and of course if the Iowa/MSU game is tight and MSU comes out on top, why not keep Iowa at 4 and MSU moves up to 2 or 3 depending on who losses in front of them?

Talent wise - OSU is one of the best, if not the best of the 1 loss teams - team wise though, they just aren't there this year.

My point is you said you don't think there is any way OSU should get in.  But if MSU blows out Iowa, and Stanford and Alabama both lose, you haven't given a solution as to who you would put in.  I agree that not winning your conference should detract from your status as a playoff team, but the reason they didn't exclude non-conference champions is for situations like this... if OSU is clearly one of the top 4 teams in their mind, and the other stuff falls into place, then they want an out to be able to put OSU in.

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Dec 3, 2015 10:58:04 GMT -5 @teddy said:

Dec 3, 2015 10:48:19 GMT -5 @grumor said:

It does come down to an eye test at that stage. I don't think anyone could argue that USC should jump from 20 to 4 by beating Stanford. I could see a case being made if UNC was to play Clemson tight and lost by less than a TD and of course if the Iowa/MSU game is tight and MSU comes out on top, why not keep Iowa at 4 and MSU moves up to 2 or 3 depending on who losses in front of them?

Talent wise - OSU is one of the best, if not the best of the 1 loss teams - team wise though, they just aren't there this year.

My point is you said you don't think there is any way OSU should get in.  But if MSU blows out Iowa, and Stanford and Alabama both lose, you haven't given a solution as to who you would put in.  I agree that not winning your conference should detract from your status as a playoff team, but the reason they didn't exclude non-conference champions is for situations like this... if OSU is clearly one of the top 4 teams in their mind, and the other stuff falls into place, then they want an out to be able to put OSU in.

Understood and agreed - however, if someone jumps OSU and either of the other scenarios play out - OSU has NO business bitching.

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Dec 3, 2015 10:48:19 GMT -5 @grumor said:

It does come down to an eye test at that stage. I don't think anyone could argue that USC should jump from 20 to 4 by beating Stanford. I could see a case being made if UNC was to play Clemson tight and lost by less than a TD and of course if the Iowa/MSU game is tight and MSU comes out on top, why not keep Iowa at 4 and MSU moves up to 2 or 3 depending on who losses in front of them?

Talent wise - OSU is one of the best, if not the best of the 1 loss teams - team wise though, they just aren't there this year.

Only because I look through Crimson Colored Glasses I think OU is the best 1 lost team. But OSU is a very very close 2nd

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Dec 3, 2015 21:18:59 GMT -5 skiodie said:

Dec 3, 2015 10:48:19 GMT -5 @grumor said:

It does come down to an eye test at that stage. I don't think anyone could argue that USC should jump from 20 to 4 by beating Stanford. I could see a case being made if UNC was to play Clemson tight and lost by less than a TD and of course if the Iowa/MSU game is tight and MSU comes out on top, why not keep Iowa at 4 and MSU moves up to 2 or 3 depending on who losses in front of them?

Talent wise - OSU is one of the best, if not the best of the 1 loss teams - team wise though, they just aren't there this year.

Only because I look through Crimson Colored Glasses I think OU is the best 1 lost team. But OSU is a very very close 2nd

If you're looking at SOS and quality wins, Oklahoma is much better than Ohio State.